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Peterbullz
15-03-2010, 01:26 PM
:moo:
I couldent decide what class to stick with.....im sorta off an Altholic... so i asked some people to help me....and got em all to decide for me sorta:D
So i ended up with BW :flame: :eek2:
and i normally befor i make a Alt now a main make a path to follow when it comes to that time and i came up with Bright Wizard Path (http://www.wardb.com/career.aspx?id=11#15:41512:8:32:0:0:29:8205:563:81 94:8196::::8215:669:8217:8220)
and yes its meant to be singletarget dps
if you can please leave a comment on how to improve it or if its oka...then just say that :D thanks :moo:
Cotopaxi
03-04-2010, 12:15 PM
The "trouble" I find with playing with BW's specs is that it seems impossible to gimp them - there's no "clear" builds - you can spec how you like and still have something playable in the end (although I'm sure someone into the splitting of hairs into all three trees will work out a way just to prove a point!).
Personally, I've got a couple of builds I'm interested in at the mo. I've been going the full conflag route but tbh I'm finding the overall utility in this build to be somewhat limited. It's great if you have a pocket healer, or a large amount of enemy players conveniently standing together without their umbrellas, but the novelty is wearing off.
The DD spec as you've put up looks good, although you lose the ability to stay mobile when casting, and that big 'ol burning head means you have to wait to get morale 4 - I'd prefer to use the points in something else. Mind you, you don't have to wait for the whole tick time when casting fireball barrage I guess - same goes for anything channeled like the 6's withering heat in my build below.
Here's my current thinking, once I'm sure I'm going to respec. Ofc, there's an incoming nerf that effects this tree (iirc), so I may well have to rethink again once they've smacked us with the bat: linky (http://www.wardb.com/career.aspx?id=11#7:0:13:8872:0:0:29:8198:563:8209 :8207::::673:674:8217:672)
With this I get good damage without having to stand still, lots of insta-cast fun and reasonable root/stuns. I don't get the big numbers in scenarios, but then I prefer the idea of being useful in guild groups and a provider of utility/flexibility while still providing the burns.
Last thing to mention, is that the rr70 build would have taken me up to Nova in the Incineration tree. Perhaps shovelling the points in Conflag instead to raise the damage in sieges would be an idea.
EDIT: Dunno why, but one of the tactics doesn't show right. The first tactic should be Distracting Fires - reducing the cooldown of fire cage.
Sorinda
03-04-2010, 12:58 PM
Reverse the build go with stop drop and roll spec. Great for killing stuff without help :)
Butche
06-04-2010, 04:12 PM
Get a guard and go full Aoe spec, but only take the abilities, then put the rest of your mastery points in single target spec. Good for killing lots in one go
Icevixen
07-04-2010, 10:05 AM
Yeah I agree with Butche. This is the build I'm planning for my bw if ever.
http://www.wardb.com/career.aspx?id=11#5:32:0:0:15:2600:25:563:8210:569 :8211:14117:14115:15121:673:8216:671:672
Cotopaxi
07-04-2010, 10:30 AM
I'm about 4 points short of stop drop n roll in immolate after a respec and I have to say I'll never look back. The ability to burn down single targets and act with more precision when handing out the fire is just so much more satisfying. Just need to watch those AOE dots, I've made a few gaffs with the little buggers.
I'm also loving Withering Heat.
Icevixen
07-04-2010, 12:03 PM
If it was just single target and dots, better to go shadow warrior, more cc too and some aoe and way more mobility while auto attacking even. xD
But this is a bright wizard thread and bright wizards are meant to bomb in t4 RvR single target for PvE of course and small-scale PvP.
Butche
07-04-2010, 06:57 PM
Nice set up for your BW Ice, but drop the tactics and take backdraft instead, never hurts to have an aoe knockback that also causes damage over time, and our basic tactics that we get through core abilities are better
Icevixen
08-04-2010, 02:07 AM
Ok thanks Butche. :) I'll take note of that and I do know what you mean so Lingering Fires instead of Wildfire?
Alkimake
25-04-2010, 10:44 PM
http://www.wardb.com/career.aspx?id=11#5:0:0:0:15:35488:25:563:8211:821 2::14117:14115:15121:8215:674:671:8222
i use this build plus theres a tactic who gives 200 morale for each crits which is useful especially when you go aoe
oh i have funnel power too but could not show here for a reason.
Cotopaxi
26-04-2010, 01:46 AM
But this is a bright wizard thread and bright wizards are meant to bomb in t4 RvR single target for PvE of course and small-scale PvP.
Sorry Ice, I'm sure you're right, that bombing is what BW's are "for", but I'm enjoying the DOTs build way more than AoE. It's more fun. Tried AoE, found it dull as dishwater. I'm also not massively bothered about a shadow warrior.
Maybe I'll try the fireball barrage route next once the nerf hits :D
Icevixen
26-04-2010, 06:18 AM
Good luck dotting 200 destros one at a time then, oh yeah there is 1 dot that is AoE or just stick with pve and small scale. :P :beer:
This is why we fail. Anyhow as long as you're having fun. :)
Note: This inspires me to respec my AM to dps so I can be as useless in warbands and have my own fun since I do like AM dots they pawn! xD On 2nd thought, I won't be because I will still have insta-res, AoE debuffs and a m4 that can keep a bombing bw bombing non-stop for 15 secs using 50% less AP. I blame PMS for this post.
konfuzfanten
26-04-2010, 07:35 AM
IF you want to play orvr with a BW (or any char) then you need to run a semi aoe spec. Ofc most BW can go bomb even if they are speced for dots/single target but against another bomb premade/wb you will lose if your BW isn’t speced for bombing. I only include BW im my premades if they are bomb speced OR really high RR so they can 2 shot most destros. But if you run solo in sc’s or small rvr then you should go with dot specing and get the all important "stop, drop and roll".
On the SW vs the BW:
As of right now there is really no reason to pick a SW instead of a dotting BW. The spec(dot spec) kiltz and sorinda is running and the fight style is more or less that of a SW with the exception that they can kill a target in 10-15 sec.
Again you really cant go wrong with the BW, just pick a play style and then spec in that tree and it should be fine :)
konfuzfanten
26-04-2010, 07:44 AM
a m4 that can keep a bombing bw bombing non-stop for 15 secs using 50% less AP.
Do you mean funnel energy? Thats a crap moral compared to your M2 or our kinda okey M4 (winds protection). I only use M2 and ofc our M1 shield. AP drain+AP pot with focused mind = 10 sec of indestructible premade, that combo have saved a lot of sc's :p
Peavey
26-04-2010, 09:32 AM
A BW Thread is not complete without a BW video, particularly bombing vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAWv8RZ2ko8
Cotopaxi
26-04-2010, 11:04 AM
*snip* ...I blame PMS for this post.
I don't blame anything for this post, I prefer to take responsibility for the things I say and do rather than find excuses for them.
I semi-shelved Cotopaxi after this thread was made, if you look it's getting a bit old now, but there were fresh posts so I shovelled my opinion in there by way of conversation.
I still prefer the DoT's, have much more fun small scale (which is more fun imo).
I have loads more fun with him, so he's comes out to play when I feel like a break. People said the guild needed tanks the other week, so I ressurected my SM (first char I played, at launch). She was all sad and un-loved at level 30, but she *was* level 30. So I dusted her off, bought her a sword and board and specced Vaul. You know, the really dull tank spec. Guard, challenge, hold the line and all that. Zzzzz.
Still, let me know if you want me to make any changes, or play something else as I'd really like to be responsible for winning the whole war rather than losing it and spoiling it for everyone else.
Cotopaxi
26-04-2010, 11:07 AM
Again you really cant go wrong with the BW, just pick a play style and then spec in that tree and it should be fine :)
I used to think that way, but now I've found that if you don't do exactly as you're told and play bomb spec you're losing the war for everyone else. It's simply irresponsible to spec anything but conflag. The real debate is what you spec *with* conflag. Thats what all the cool kids are talking about this year.
Prelate
26-04-2010, 11:26 AM
Don't take it too seriously, you can play orvr as single target if you just, well play orvr as single target.
And Peavey that video is from times that BW aoe was "bit" more powerful than it is now. I mean Flamingg is practically tanking there and of course that aoe stun was bit of a game breaker. Nice vid still, this is sometime after 1.2 patch so you can actually see my destro toon in one bit there. Order was boasting in forums that they were using uber tight premade tactics when beating destro while attacking keeps with non zerging of +200 peeps. Oh, those times... ;)
Sorinda
27-04-2010, 07:05 PM
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/2465/sorinda015.jpg (http://img203.imageshack.us/i/sorinda015.jpg/)
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5783/sorinda016.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/sorinda016.jpg/)
Pay particular attention to the spell rotation. It focuses on max burst and dots that hit before they notice they are dying. Utilise silence and healing debuff when needed as well.
Build originally used by Prelate and passed onto me by Kiltz.
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Icevixen
28-04-2010, 06:26 AM
You're right konfuz about BW's, RR and tovl glyphs you can spec however you want and dish out uber damage. But M2 focus mind - that's more for healing. :) M1 for me is always the shield, since I never really spec-ed for anything else, it was just an idea that occurred to me.
There is also no point in making my AM go to scs anymore so I don't do small-scale with her either, if healers said spamming group heal is boring no one would ever even heal.
Well the aim is to help the greater good so I heal as a healer and tank as a tank. We can try soloing all we want and pawning in small-scale but the game was never about that and most don't really care about teamplay (the lack of interest in Tory's efforts for improvement in working as a team and previously Kelem's in oRvR) anyhow so I did move my SM to Inquisitors already, my BW has been there since t1. :P
When we lose 1 scenario in any tier, when we fail in a city siege instance (until the next patch), it does affect all of order as a whole, game was designed to be so. We all fail when we lose. So maybe it's just me but I personally try to fail less while playing a non-fotm class.
In the end you will keep playing however you want, whenever you want it really boils down to what you want to do in WAR - PvE/SC/oRvR and how you want to improve your character while having fun playing your character. We don't always have to win but winning is part of that fun (for me anyhow). :beer:
I digress but if some people actually playing BW's refuse to even be part of the bigger picture then I obviously have to level mine and it's also why Kelem is leveling his, although I might not have to since Inquisitors does have active bombing BW's. Oh and you still actually have a new one because Mohel respec-ed so I'd guard him. Hahaha!
Mohel
28-04-2010, 07:48 AM
All bombing videos I've seen have been mindless spamming 2-3 buttons. wtf? It's not like that. I seriously believe this film is by a noob, he cant play BW like that. And movement is just >.<. Or maybe he's pro and just to overpowered to care.
Dot - Survival
AoE - Best with group (better than anything)
Fireball - good with group, and has survival? well atleast it's ranged. It can definatly blow someones combat log to pieces.
I like everything. But for 20 man+ Fireball and AoE is a big difference to dot specc. You really need those direct hits, otherwise the dot ticks one or two times and someone else blows them down. Dots are not pushing like the others, But you can kite :)
So if you like to play solo, specc dot. If you like sc's but don't find perfect group, specc fireball. If you have the perfect group, please try out bomb :).
I do bombing when I can just for the sake of (often) double renown in scenarios. If i'm stressed with PUG's I specc fireball. And if I go soloing ORvR I use DoT.
Sorinda I really think you need the tactic for reduced resistance. just take 1 from direct damage and get the tactic. Should be worth it, and it's buffing everyone's dmg you won't loose anything more important.
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